“You mentioned one thing fairly some time in the past. That is earlier than Biden introduced. You mentioned that you simply thought time for brand spanking new blood, time for a altering of the guard, open major season. Then, inside the final month or so, you mentioned you want there could be an open conference, just like the old style days, the place they’d dealer and discover a candidate. And that was somewhat upsetting to me as a result of that is about whether or not or not we protect our 249 years of self-rule or we slip right into a theocratic autocracy.” “I don’t assume individuals actually recognize how dangerous Biden’s ballot numbers are. If you take a look at them, it’s like strolling in in your grandmother bare. You may’t unsee them, irrespective of how arduous you strive. And the deeper you dig, the form of worse it’s. I don’t assume we thought this factor by. I don’t assume individuals understand the starvation and urge for food for one thing completely different on this nation. And I don’t assume they understand this terrific pool of candidates out of there.” “I don’t disagree with you that we’ve a great bench. There are a variety of nice candidates on the market for 2028. However can we simply speak about these ballot numbers that you simply speak about, that are — proper now, you take a look at them, they’re not good. There’s no query about it. However I feel we will nonetheless win this election, however we’ve to all be pulling with the identical oar. All of us must be pulling the identical oar.” “So once I say it’s underappreciated how dangerous these numbers are, to start with, to ensure that a Democrat to win in a coalition, an integral a part of coalition are Blacks and below 30. The numbers amongst Blacks are abysmal. They’re not dangerous, OK? I feel Biden will clearly carry the Black vote, however he received a detailed election with a strong Black turnout — I don’t see it — and a strong under-30 turnout. Underneath 30 ought to be 17 p.c of the voters. It’s clocking in now 14. They usually assume that we’re outdated — — I don’t know the place they get that concept — And that —” [OVERLAPPING VOICES] “Take a look at us, man.” [INAUDIBLE] “I’m a younger pet, in comparison with you.” “I do know that. My sister says, ‘Do you understand how outdated you might be?’ I mentioned, ‘No, I by no means give it some thought.’ I understand how outdated I’m.” [LAUGHS] “And I perceive the place you’re coming from. People who I really like, that I speak to each day, which have been a part of this movie make precisely the identical level you do. And I can’t unsee what I see.” “Yeah.” “Look, if it goes to the conference and Biden is the nominee, I’ll be probably the most enthusiastic level particular person possible.” “I like listening to you say that, as soon as he’s the nominee —” “There’s no [INAUDIBLE].” “You’re all in. You’re all —” “Proper.” “You’re all in.” “But when there’s a 5 p.c probability I can cease — if I knew somebody was going to commit suicide or I believed they have been, I believed there was a 60 p.c probability they’re going to commit suicide —” “I’ll be committing suicide if Trump turns into president. 100%.” “Nicely, I do know. I perceive what you’re saying. I really feel like that we is perhaps committing suicide.” “Now, we did speak about suburban ladies. And to me, after they perceive that Trump has known as for a nationwide abortion ban and that would occur, that’s one other half that’ll energize the suburbs of Philadelphia, Milwaukee, Phoenix, these locations.” “Actually, Democrats haven’t misplaced an election since Dobbs. Anyplace.” “Proper.” “All over the place.” “Proper.” “But when we don’t have 12 p.c Black contribution or 17 p.c below 30, you’ll be able to’t make it up with suburban ladies.” “How can we get these individuals out? That’s what we want you to do.” [STAMMERING] “That’s what we want you for.” “Once more, I — so individuals ascribe to me powers that I don’t have, OK? The world isn’t — I imply, as excessive an opinion I may need of myself, and it’s in all probability not as excessive as some individuals assume it’s — however suppose I have an effect on 100 votes, and suppose however for 75 votes, Biden would have received, and someone — and a political scientist, you already know — did an algorithm and a few superior math calculations and mentioned, you already know, ‘James Carville is the rationale that we don’t have a Structure anymore.’ All proper, now that’s clearly not true.” “No.” “However should you assume it goes by my head, yeah. If it’s us and Trump, after all we started working our asses off. However it’s not going to be. It’s going to be us and Trump and No Labels and Bobby Kennedy, who’s [EXPLETIVE] loopy.” “And there’s no definitive polling that he’ll take extra from Biden than Trump. He in all probability will, however I’m considering — and once more, we’re on the margins right here. We’re on the margins. So if he can take one or two factors extra, that might be very harmful for us.” “So that they have [INAUDIBLE]. I don’t know tips on how to get to — the way you get this quantity. However there’s a [EXPLETIVE] vote in the USA. And there at all times has been.” “At all times has been. However it’s larger than — That put — that put George W. within the White Home as a result of they voted for Ralph Nader as an alternative of for Gore.” “However there is no such thing as a doubt that with out Ralph Nader, the Supreme Courtroom couldn’t have stole the 2000 election.” “Yeah.” “Trump doesn’t need one other ‘Nicely, [EXPLETIVE]’ candidate, as a result of he’s cornered the ‘Nicely, [EXPLETIVE]’ market. You recognize?” “He actually does. Assuming that we’re the place we’re, it’s going to be Biden in opposition to Trump, except one thing wildly unexpected occurs, do you continue to assume we will win this election?” “Yeah, however — as a result of each election is shut. Proper now — and we want greater than somewhat little bit of a change to win this. And I don’t know what’s going to occur. I’m no higher at predicting who’s going to win an election than you’ll be, possibly, higher at, like, predicting who’s going to win the Academy Award as a result of you already know these individuals assume, however you in all probability don’t. You recognize, not superb fee. However in a rustic that’s simply craving some form of a change, and folks say democracy — I agree — democracy is on the poll. But when a democracy produces two candidates that 70 p.c p.c of the individuals don’t need, individuals are going to say, nicely, [EXPLETIVE], simply let the Normal Motors board decide whoever they wish to be president.” “It’s a — it’s a crapshoot, whether or not — you already know, Biden is our nominee. In the event you determine that you simply’re going to explode the place we at the moment are and open up a conference and have a brokered conference or no matter, that may be harmful. I’m simply wanting on the actuality of the place we’re and saying, ‘That is the place we’re, and that is what we’ve to simply accept and full-bore help Joe Biden.’” “It seems just like the occasion has determined that, OK, we’re simply going to undergo with this. I feel the fashionable Republican Social gathering is outlined by criminality. And I’ve been a Democrat all my life, however I’m starting to assume that the defining trait we’ve is cowardice. I can’t unsee my bare grandmother.” “Yeah, I hear what you’re saying. And if there’s that 1 p.c or 2 p.c probability that one thing occurs and we’ve to, you already know, go a unique route, such as you, I’m p.c behind that.”